Sleep more deeply even when insomnia and sleep apnea are both in the mix.
When insomnia and sleep-related breathing disruption interact, treating only one often leaves people stuck in “Why am I still waking up?” territory.
From Snore to Score is a self-paced educational course that helps you understand the full system: sleep drive, circadian timing, arousal, and breathing-related sleep fragmentation, so you can make practical, informed changes without panic or guesswork.
This is education, not therapy or medical care. It’s designed to help you feel less confused, less alarmed, and more capable, whether you’re starting treatment, troubleshooting PAP, or trying to make sense of persistent awakenings.
The Essentials You’ll Understand
By the end of the course, you’ll be clear on:
How insomnia and breathing-related sleep disruption can reinforce each other, and why that can create unpredictable nights and “what just happened?” awakenings.
How sleep drive, circadian rhythm, and the arousal system actually work, including why “exhausted” can still show up as “tired but wired.”
What to do during a 2 a.m. awakening, simple steps that calm the system and reduce sleep effort instead of escalating it.
Veronica Yazigi, LPC – Licensed Professional Counselor
What You’ll Learn:
➡️ The Insomnia-Apnea Connection
Understand the interaction between insomnia symptoms and breathing-related sleep fragmentation, including micro-arousals and the “I slept, but I don’t feel like I slept” experience. We connect the dots so your nights make sense.
➡️ Sleep Demystified
Clear, practical sleep science, no jargon, no shame. You’ll learn how sleep drive, circadian timing, and arousal sensitivity shape insomnia patterns, and why effort often backfires at night.
➡️ PAP Without the Frustration
PAP can be life-changing and also irritating. We cover common comfort barriers (mask fit, leaks, dryness, pressure intolerance, mouth leaks) and provide simple troubleshooting steps to make PAP more comfortable.
➡️ The After-Hours Mind
Skills to reduce the “oh no, I’m awake again” spiral, loosen the struggle with sleep, and build a calmer response to wake-ups. This is not a sleep hygiene checklist.
➡️ Your Personalized Sleep Playbook
You’ll put everything into a realistic plan tailored to your nights, so you’re not trying 20 random strategies and hoping one sticks.
What This Course Gives You
This course isn’t about becoming a “perfect sleeper.”
It’s about getting a clear framework so you can respond to your nights with skill instead of fear.
Course goals:
✅ more accurate expectations about awakenings and lighter sleep
✅ decrease sleep effort and nighttime spiraling
✅ clearer “if/then” plan for wake-ups
✅ confidence troubleshooting PAP comfort barriers
✅ alignment between what’s happening at night and what to do next
Meet Your Course Creator and Facilitator
Hi, I’m Veronica.
I’ve worked in the mental health field for over 30 years, and I also know this terrain personally. I lived with chronic insomnia for years, and I’ve been diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea. I use PAP therapy and understand the learning curve and the frustration firsthand.
That personal experience, combined with my clinical training, shapes the way I teach: practical, compassionate, and grounded in science.
My work is informed by advanced training in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia (CBT-I), including:
Stanford Sleep Health & Insomnia Program (SHIP).
Perelman School of Medicine, University of Pennsylvania — Advanced CBT-I Training.
University of Arizona College of Medicine — CBT-I Training.
I also participate in ongoing professional consultations to stay aligned with the latest research and best practices in insomnia.
My goal is simple: help tired people stop feeling lost in their own nights and start working with their sleep system again.
The Program Modules
WHAT TO EXPECT
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Sleep + apnea explained without the boring doctor-speak. You’ll see why insomnia and sleep apnea often gang up on you.
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Decode sleep cycles, discover your chronotype, and finally get why “8 hours” isn’t one-size-fits-all.
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Learn how to fit, fix, and finally get comfortable with your machine, plus explore alternatives if PAP isn’t the right fit.
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Racing thoughts. ‘Oh no, I’m awake again’ loops. Here’s how we interrupt the spiral with CBT-I + ACT skills that actually stick.
Educational program led by a licensed therapist (educational role; not therapy).
Choose the version of From Snore to Score that fits your learning style.
Deep Rest (Self-Paced)
Your Sleep Strategy, On Your Schedule.
$297
The complete 4-session video course + tools.
Includes worksheets, tools, playbook & more. Lifetime access + future updates.
Perfect for:
People who want a step-by-step plan they can follow at their own pace.
DEEP REST
$297
Sleep Smart (Hybrid)
A little extra support, still mostly independent.
This hybrid option is offered periodically and opens when a minimum number of participants is met. Expressing interest does not require payment. When not actively running, it is not available for immediate enrollment.
$497
Everything in Deep Rest PLUS two live group sessions for extra support and accountability.
Includes the Sleep Like a Boss Toolkit + PAP Mistakes Guide.
Perfect for:
People who want clarity and light guidance without a heavy time commitment.
From Snore to Score -Hybrid
$497.00
Payment is required only when enrollment opens. Expressing interest does not require payment.
Dream Recharge (Live)
The most interactive, guided experience.
This live workshop series is offered on demand and opens when a minimum number of participants is reached. Expressing interest does not require payment. Availability varies and is not continuous.
$1,097
Everything in Sleep Smart PLUS includes four live teaching sessions with real-time support, Q&A, examples, and sleep-plan refinement.
Perfect for:
People who learn best live and want deeper practice with guidance.
From Snore to Score -Live
$1097.00
Payment is required only when enrollment opens.
Not ready for the course?
Start here instead: a free, no-pressure sleep explainer.
If now isn’t the right time, you’re welcome to begin with a short, science-informed PDF that explains a common “sleep jam” pattern and what to try first.
Why This Course Exists
A lot of people with insomnia + breathing-related sleep disruption fall into an information gap:
Insomnia advice that ignores breathing-related sleep fragmentation.
Apnea treatment that doesn’t address the arousal system, conditioned wakefulness, or sleep effort.
Confusing headlines that blur sleep deprivation, insomnia, and fatigue into one scary story.
This course is designed to reduce confusion and fear, clarify what’s actually happening at night, and give you a realistic framework for next steps.
This Course Is For You If …
You have insomnia symptoms and suspected or diagnosed sleep apnea / breathing-related sleep disruption.
You’re using PAP, but sleep still feels fragmented or unrefreshing.
You feel overwhelmed by conflicting advice and want a coherent plan.
You prefer to understand the “why” before changing the “what.”
And if you’ve tried lots of things already, you’re not behind. You’re not broken. You may simply be missing an integrated framework that accounts for both systems.
Still Got Questions?
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
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No. This is an educational course. It does not diagnose, treat, or replace therapy or medical care.
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PAP means Positive Airway Pressure and is the umbrella term. CPAP is one type. You may also hear APAP (auto-adjusting) or BiLevel/BiPAP (two pressure settings). People often say “CPAP” as shorthand even when the device is another PAP type.
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No. The course is helpful if you’re using PAP, considering it, or trying to understand persistent awakenings and sleep fragmentation patterns. If you have symptoms of sleep-disordered breathing, medical evaluation is important.
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No. Sleep hygiene can support sleep quality, but it does not treat insomnia patterns. This course focuses on sleep mechanisms, arousal patterns, and behavioral tools (CBT-I/ACT-informed), as well as breathing-related sleep education.
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Deep Rest is self-paced, so you can move at your own speed. Hybrid and Live options include recordings/resources when available.
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Lifetime access, including future updates.
